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This is something that I would like to address...I thought that entry into GW was to be done anonymously and if that is true why have I seen at least 3 entries that I also seen being battled...just wondering...



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This is something that I would like to address...I thought that entry into GW was to be done anonymously and if that is true why have I seen at least 3 entries that I also seen being battled...just wondering...
That's not all that unusual. I put my doll on private in my album but others put their dolls in their albums or battle with them, etc. Some have won entering the same doll that has won previously although I didn't see that this time. I figure it's just how it goes!



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It is just how it goes sadly... Also with the crop outs of copyrighted images... and I'm pretty sure I've read a rule that dolls/diva's must be derived from the original base diva.



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The Guild War page says this:

Unless specific rules are posted in the announcement thread, your outfits can be made of Shop, CYO, or both. Poses are permitted. It's pretty much anything goes as long as Diva Chix rules are not broken (ie, nudity, copyright infringement, etc)

Different poses (new and existing) are okay, but cut outs and copyrights? Cut outs are allowed to be used I think, although personally I don't much care for them. However, said cutouts are not supposed to violate any copyright rules, the same as any DC dolly.

Anon battling versus not. I too was surprised to see dolls in there that I've seen battling. The rules don't specifically say that you have to battle anonymously, but it does state this:

You are not to attempt to affect the outcome of Guild War. This means do not tell others which doll belongs to who, ask others to vote for a specific doll, or ask others to vote against a specific doll.

So that definitely seems to be a gray area. Not sure how that could be enforced 100%. I wish it could though. My fave part about guild war aside from the "anything goes" creative aspect of it, is its anonymity

@fashionchallenged Liz, can you clear up the rules pretty please?

On a side note, I'm gutted that @babs11's and @cyncyn's dollies were eliminated. They were two of my favey faves



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The Guild War page says this:

Unless specific rules are posted in the announcement thread, your outfits can be made of Shop, CYO, or both. Poses are permitted. It's pretty much anything goes as long as Diva Chix rules are not broken (ie, nudity, copyright infringement, etc)

Different poses (new and existing) are okay, but cut outs and copyrights? Cut outs are allowed to be used I think, although personally I don't much care for them. However, said cutouts are not supposed to violate any copyright rules, the same as any DC dolly.

Anon battling versus not. I too was surprised to see dolls in there that I've seen battling. The rules don't specifically say that you have to battle anonymously, but it does state this:

You are not to attempt to affect the outcome of Guild War. This means do not tell others which doll belongs to who, ask others to vote for a specific doll, or ask others to vote against a specific doll.

So that definitely seems to be a gray area. Not sure how that could be enforced 100%. I wish it could though. My fave part about guild war aside from the "anything goes" creative aspect of it, is its anonymity

@fashionchallenged Liz, can you clear up the rules pretty please?

On a side note, I'm gutted that @babs11's and @cyncyn's dollies were eliminated. They were two of my favey faves



aww thanks mollym


i wasn't going to enter...always same people who win...
its just the game at mo...if your face doesn't fit you lose...
i hope with the revamp it changes if not i'm thinking about leaving game....not much fun anymore
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i wasn't going to enter...always same people who win...
its just the game at mo...if your face doesn't fit you lose...
i hope with the revamp it changes if not i'm thinking about leaving game....not much fun anymore
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It would be a loss for DC if you left. I hope the revamp convinces you otherwise
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It is just how it goes sadly... Also with the crop outs of copyrighted images... and I'm pretty sure I've read a rule that dolls/diva's must be derived from the original base diva.
I have a major problem with entries that appear to be "pictures". That takes the whole point out of the competition. Don't understand why those aren't eliminated from the comp before it starts unless the player can prove to staff it isn't just a picture.

Not sure I understand the "original base diva" thing. I don't have a problem with someone designing a completely new pose for the comp but the point for me is that they start with a "pose". Am I making sense?



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1) The copyright issue, is a sore point. If they get the image from a site that says they can modify and use it, there is no copyright issue on the player's part. Even if the person who uploaded it to that site committed a copyright violation (we do not know that and cannot assume that).

I found the doll I think you are referring to on the internet, According to the Terms on that site, only the owner of the image can put it up on that site and by posting they are giving that site and its users complete rights to modify and use, So there is no copyright issue on that doll.


2) There is no anon rule. The rule stated on the main site page is the same rule as with other events. Being in the battle lounge does not mean you are telling or asking people for vote for your doll.

The voters however want to see new dolls. The more they see the doll outside of GW, the less they tend to vote for the doll. So that tends to backfire on the player.


3) As for the "start with the doll base" that Cathy and Darla mentioned. Starting with the doll base was actually an old GOC rule. It would stop people from using any poses that have the body in a different position. I think that rule pretty much went away when the pose layer was added, it just was never removed from the rules.

The whole doll on the background (picture uploaded as the background and then an invisible doll on the body layer) doesn't usually last long in GW against all the exclusives.



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We already investigated that one, it is also on Pinterest.

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No disrespect, etc. meant but Liz you sound like a lawyer here.

If you read what I posted you can see I'm NOT hung up on the doll base thing for the very reason you mentioned. HOWEVER this site is built on having a "doll" or "pose" which the player dresses in different layers and looks. It's not built on taking someone else's picture or photo or whatever from the internet and uploading it as yours. At this point it isn't about "copyright" because that's all for "legal" reasons.

The entry I am questioning is still in the competition and doesn't look like a pose, etc but a picture/drawing/painting that's gorgeous but doesn't work for me. I just don't think it's right but guess that's my problem.

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@fashionchallenged you stated that if the pic is on pinterst that it can be used if the owner pinned it but the pic was pinned by a Isaiah Stephens but on the pic it is copyright by Paizo Publishing so is this person associated with the publishing company? or is he the one who owns the rights? On the Picture it even states that it is copyright 2017-18 by WillObrien the same Will Obrien who the picture is by and the name Pathfinder is associated with the publishing company, so what is really the correct info?
Just wondering how some people can get away with things like this and others gets penalize for this...just how I feel.



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We already investigated that one, it is also on Pinterest.

Edit: The terms on Pinterest say the person pinning it the first time is supposed to own the image and by posting, they give Pinterest and its users permission "to use, store, display, reproduce, re-pin, modify, create derivative works, perform, and distribute"
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No disrespect, etc. meant but Liz you sound like a lawyer here.

If you read what I posted you can see I'm NOT hung up on the doll base thing for the very reason you mentioned. HOWEVER this site is built on having a "doll" or "pose" which the player dresses in different layers and looks. It's not built on taking someone else's picture or photo or whatever from the internet and uploading it as yours. At this point it isn't about "copyright" because that's all for "legal" reasons.

The entry I am questioning is still in the competition and doesn't look like a pose, etc but a picture/drawing/painting that's gorgeous but doesn't work for me. I just don't think it's right but guess that's my problem.

I'm tired of all this stuff. It mostly just makes the playing field around here uneven and frustrating.
@molokai I get what you are saying it is picture of something that was uploaded and then used not even a real diva chix doll base of even a doll base at all it is just a picture.



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@molokai I get what you are saying it is picture of something that was uploaded and then used not even a real diva chix doll base of even a doll base at all it is just a picture.
And it made it through round 2.



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And it made it through round 2.

I agree, I think all entries should really be based on a pose that you dress up, not just a picture you've uploaded... you can base the outfit on a picture you've seen, but that's completely different. This is a dress-up site after all, not a 'I found a cool picture' site...



I'm honestly surprised it wasn't voted out in the first round...


(But then again, I'm also surprised by a few dolls that were voted out in the first round that I thought were really great... but that's just a difference in taste, I guess, and a difference in interpretation of the theme maybe.)



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aww thanks mollym


i wasn't going to enter...always same people who win...
its just the game at mo...if your face doesn't fit you lose...
i hope with the revamp it changes if not i'm thinking about leaving game....not much fun anymore
so so sad

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".if your face doesn't fit you lose" ...Just curious, but I don't understand what this means ...I've reread it like a thousand times now lol ...Do you mind explaining(If you do, no worries, that's okay too)?



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